Before I share an archive with you….. some nutrition notes!
I made this recipe last evening for Turkey Pumpkin Chilli, and it was excellent! High in antioxidants and Core friendly. To quote one of our amazing QT2 Nutritionists Leslie Reap:
“All of the color included in this recipe is an immediate indicator of its high amount of antioxidants and other health boosting nutrients. Both pumpkin and red bell peppers, and any other red and orange colored fruits/vegetables are rich in Vitamin C and Vitamin A. Both are antioxidants that rid your body of toxins created as by-products when your body is under stress (i.e. heavy bouts of training, fighting off colds or the flu, stressful times at work, etc). In addition, winter squash and pumpkin are both high in many of the B-vitamins essential for energy production. Vitamin B1 helps to convert blood sugar to energy. Vitamin B3 is needed for the metabolism of carbohydrates and fats into energy, not to mention the maintenance of muscle and nerve function.”
This might be Leslie's version......
Here is my version......
Luc stuck to his Mac and Cheese!
It was a miracle that Curt Eggers even shared the kitchen! He’s the cook in the house….. and he even let me use his good cookware. Why I try to learn how to cook when someone cooks for me is beyond me…….
Speaking of learning……I attended a terrific webinar last week given by Gordo Byrn over at Endurance Corner
. It’s no secret that I love the guys over there, for years they have unknowingly been my coaching mentors (Especially that crazy Chuckie V
fellow) I have been reading Gordo’s stuff since the days he was hanging around Rich Straus! (why must I admit my age?). It was Gordo who really got me into the whole learning aspect of this Ironman stuff. He used to have an amazing forum, unfortunately that’s gone now. Boo.
I also attended a really good QT2 webinar last weekend on nutrition and how to eat in the Core while traveling. If you have ever been a traveler (I AM!) you were able to learn some good tips and tricks on how to keep things dialed in, rather than ending up eating the good old Egg McMuffin.
Ah yes, I love this time of the season. I love collecting my CEC’s and just refreshing and learning new stuff. for athletes and coaches alike it’s always a good time to return to the basics.
So let’s do that today with a little talk about heart rate. I originally wrote this a year or so ago……. enjoy!
Heart rate training is easy, available, and cost effective.. There is a lot of information you can learn from a heart rate monitor. More often than not what I see happen with a heart rate monitor is that it slows people down. Which it should.
I met with an aspiring triathlete last week in fact, who is an extremely intelligent person. Try as I might I knew they were not buying the “slow down now, to go fast later.” pitch. And I knew where the story would end. Not adhering to training zones, paces. Then burnout, injury and disgust would come next. We talked about base phases, but they believed they already had a base. We talked about the right intensity at the right time; they wanted it all of the time. They wanted to go hard, go fast and right now. Their goal race is in September. This is February.
So many athletes have a terrific work ethic, and the harder, better, faster, stronger theme applies well to them. The biggest challenge I have is slowing them down during training.I have been there myself. So we will cycle through tests. Swim tests, bike tests and running tests. We establish heart rate zones, T times, and V Dots.
More often than not I get this email;”I think my zone 2 is wrong. I am running with a cadence of 90, I am hitting my E pace, but I don’t feel like I am working hard enough.”
Bingo…. hold it right there. Don’t change a thing.
I never have a question about a higher heart rate because no one has an issue with going harder.
Last week. I had the following question from one of my athletes:
If I open Joe Friel’s book, I can look up my LTHR and the table shows the heart rates for each of the zones. Zone 4 appears to be 96% of LTHR. My question really was is 96% accurate for all athletes, all ages. Zone 2 appears to be 85% – 91% of LTHR. Is it possible that for someone else it actually is 80% to 86%?
This was an excellent question. It brings up several good points. First point; Joel Friel’s book. Joel Friel is the author of the Triathlete’s Training Bible. As my old coach says people believe it to be THE BIBLE. I absolutley LOVE IT. I use it all the time. It’s definitely a terrific resource, but the best coaches and athletes have plethora of resources they pull from. Now I am not arguing that Friel is wrong, his reputation speaks for itself. I am saying that there is more than one way to turn the wheel.
Friel has established a set of heart rate zones based on his theories, calculations, etc. Different people have different methods of calculating zones, and therefore different zones. Many coaches have developed their own zones, and these zones sometimes cross over, sometimes don’t.
Below is an example from a very detailed spreadsheet my former Coach, Trevor Syversen of TMS Mulstiport sent to me. I wish I knew who put all of this information in one place because it is a fabulous reference.
Take a look at the differences:
Age= 46 Max HR by either using the age predicted or age and gender formulas= 191
Resting heart rate = 58
Lactate Threshold= 170
Now according to Joel Friel the heart rate zones are:
1 65% – 81% 110.5 to 137.7 Recovery
2 82% – 88% 139.4 to 149.6 Aerobic
3 89% – 93% 151.3 to 158.1 Tempo
According to Andy Coggan the heart rate zones are:
1 <>2.5 Hr) road races
2 69% – 83% 110.4 to 132.8 Aerobic Capacity.
Endurance paced training rides3 84% – 94% 134.4 to 152
Tempo rides, aerobic and anaerobic interval workouts (work & rest combined), longer (>2.5 Hr) road races
Cycle Coach Ric Stern bases his zones on Max Heart Rate
1 75% – 77.5% 143.25 to 148.025 Endurance Long Endurance 1.5 – 6 Hours
2 77.5% – 80% 148.025 to 152.8 Endurance Core Endurance
3 80% – 85% 152.8 to 162.35 Endurance Tempo Training
Sally Edwards uses Max Heart Rate Predictions
1 50% – 60% 95.5 to 114.6 Healthy Heart Zone
2 60% – 70% 114.6 to 133.7 Temperate Zone
3 70% – 80% 133.7 to 152.8 Aerobic Zone
The Karnoven Formula uses Max HR, Resting HR and Age
1 60% – 70% 137.8 to 151.1 Weight Management Zone
2 70% – 80% 151.1 to 164.4 Aerobic Zone
3 80% – 90% 164.4 to 177.7 Aerobic Threshold Zone
The American College of Sports Medicine uses Karvonen formula of Max HR and Resting HR
1 50% – 85% 124.5 to 171.05 20 – 60 Minutes continuous aerobic activity3 – 5 days per week, alternating days
So to make it even simpler, or perhaps more confusing, just look at zone 2. Again we are not looking for who is wrong or right, we are just understanding that there are differences in how to attain, how to measure, and how to set.
Just notice that differences exist.
Has your head stopped spinning yet? Who is right? Doesn’t that seem crazy? Which one to follow? How will you know if you are in the right place? The right zone?
Then begin to add in all of the variations that heart rate training can give you. 10 beats here for dehydration, – 5 beats there because it is cold.It’s maddening.
Now…..My husband Curt is a 51 year old male. Triathlete for 20 years. At age 51 he’s still kicking around the youngsters in our area. He’s a four time National Champion after the age of 45. He’s done Hawaii. He’s been an All American a hundred years straight. In fact he’s on this year’s Inside Tri All American list. He’s a Long Course Duathlon Silver Medalist. addendum: He’s now 54 with a 9:54 Ironman at age 52 under his belt.
Curt Eggers does not wear a heart rate monitor. He uses no computer on his bike; he likely doesn’t even know his resting heart rate. Power meter? No thanks. Garmin? Forget it.Tempo runs, sure he times and measures those but goes by the watch on his hand which does nothing more than start and stop.
His big training tools? A Timex Ironman watch and a big dose of Perceived Exertion.Would knowing his LT or his FTP make him any faster? Knowing Curt it’d drive him bananas.
Tell him to run at tempo pace? He finds it. It’s in his heart. He knows it. He probably has the keenest ability of any person I know…. to know exactly where he is at all times.
His results speak for themselves.
With all the differences in zones and theories and the mix of perceived exertion, what are we to do?It’s one of the reasons I love coaching. I love taking all of these things and putting them together like a puzzle.
You have to use a combination of things, in my opinion. The largest priority should be given to Perceived Exertion, in my opinion. And there are even a bunch of Perceived Exertion charts out there.
I happen to like the one in Friel’s book. For many of my athletes we have created our own simple version as well.
So the answer is not clear. There is no one correct answer, in my opinion. You have to weed though, understand the differences, and see what applies to you. Realize that HRM batteries will die, Power Meters will fail, Garmins won’t locate.
HRM have their place. They are excellent tools to help you measure where you should and shouldn’t be. They should be used as part of training. Not as the cornerstone.There comes a time when everything shuts off and you are just left with your breath, your own pace, the sound of your own feet crunching through a dirt trail. The sound of the wind and the chirping of the birds.
I can promise you that’s what Curt notices every single time he runs.
You know when you are going too hard.
More important than the very most exact and correct zone….. is accepting that easy days are easy. Hard days are hard. And every single day is not hard. More important than which method is correct ……is understanding the principles of correctly building your season. You begin from the bottom up. You build a strong foundation with slow easy base work. Intensity has a place and a time, but without a foundation to support it, your house will fall down.
You wouldn’t build the roof before you built the basement. And you wouldn’t call it a house with only 1/2 inch of height on your basement.So start slow, start easy. Tune into yourself, and tune into what’s around you. There is a place for heart rate monitoring. There is a place for measuring. Just don’t’ get so caught up in the readings, zones, etc., that you forget to look around. Don’t get so caught up in the math that you forget why you are out running in the first place.